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 History of Vaikasi Visakam Festival
Vaikasi Visakam is observed as the birthday of Lord Subramanya Swamy or Murugan. This year Vaikasi Visakam 2009 Festival is celebrated on 5th June 2009.

Similar to any other Hindu Festivals in India, Vaikasi Visagam also is celebrated according to the famous legend associated with it. According to Hindu Puranas there were three asura (demon) brothers, Soorapadman, Singamuhan and Tarakan and they attained great powers through deep penance. They were disturbing the Devas who pleaded Lord Siva for help. As a result, Lord Shiva opened his Third Eye (Nettrikkan) - the one seen in his forehead and emanated six sparks of fire. Two of the five cosmic elements - Agni (god of fire) and Vayu (god of air), and the Devas carried these sparks to the Ganga who in turn carried them to a stream called Saravana Poigai. In the stream, the fire sparks formed six divine male babies who were cared by six young girls called Karthigai Pengal. Goddess Parvathi embraced these kids and they united to one with six faces and twelve hands. Consequently Lord Shanmugan (meaning one with six faces) emerged on the full moon day (Pournami in Tamil) in the month of Vaikasi. He is the embodiment of pure perception and divine knowledge.

Lord Murugan thus appeared for the special purpose of demolishing the evil spirits. With the Sakthi Vel given by Goddess Parvathi, Subramanya (Murugan) fought the Asuras. Eventually, on the request of Soorapadman’s wife, the Lord agreed to release her husband and made the demons as His flag (Seval Kodi- the flag with a cock emblem) and His vehicle - peacock (Mayilvahanam). The war took place in Thiruchendur and the demon, Tharakasura, was killed in Tirupporur near Chennai. To celebrate this, Devendra arranged the marriage of his daughter Deivanai with Lord Murugan. The battle with the demon is the story of the Kanda Sashti fast.

Hence, Vaikasi Visakam is observed at all Lord Murugan Temples in India as well as overseas to celebrated the victory of Lord Muruga over the demons as well as the Birthday of the Lord.

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04 Jun 2009 21:59
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 Re: History of Vaikasi Visakam Festival
Dear Raj,

You did a wrong job. You just copy pasted article from my Blog and posted here. :( :(

Here is the original article link.

http://www.hindudevotionalblog.com/2009 ... tival.html

You haven't even mentioned or credited my site or the source of the article. :(

Please don't steal others other. If you like the post you can make an article on the event or you should post a small snippet here and link to the original source.

This is not good copying and pasting others hard work.

So please DELETE THE POST as the article is written by me and is exclusively copyrighted to HinduDevotionalBlog.com.

I hope you will delete the post. I honestly believe the respected Admin of TamilMinnal.Net will take notice on this issue soon.

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05 Jun 2009 01:13
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 Re: History of Vaikasi Visakam Festival
Hi abhiabhi,

First of all, yes i do accept that its my mistake to not include the source of the article. But i did mention in your original source article that im sharing this information in the forum and included the URL as well. So i believe i do not steal your hard work - im just sharing your hard work to others in the hope lets every Hindu knows about our festival.

If you think that im "copy and paste others hard work" or "not mentioned or credited to your site or the source of the article" - then i believe you do not actually want your hard work to be exposed by others. All what you want is, all come to you (here its meaning go to your website) and learn from there.

Personally, if im in your place... i will proud myself... that people sharing my info with others... This is something even Lord Adi Shankara did... Do something to community without hoping any credit...

Lastly, i do not know whether my reply is harsh / no, but this is what i feel. Lets see what this Forum Admin do on this post... :(

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 Re: History of Vaikasi Visakam Festival
Hi Abhiabhi and Raj,
Good day to you.

Well this would be my opinion.

Knowledge is general and we do have the right to Share. Hi Abhiabhi, why do you post this topic in your Blog? To share with the Hindus right? Since we are Hindus I do believe we have the right to share this info. Even that is your intention what. Raj suppose to mention your name or provide the link, but he failed. But you see mistakes happened everywhereand there is a way to indicate the mistakes. Then only people could accept it and improve.You know even punishment intended to make one realize not not to make us suffer. So do you think it's fair to delete the posted article? Aren't we, as Hindus eligible to share your knowledge?

However I would like you to invite to our forum. Hopefully you'll stay in touch and share your knowledge with us. I believe together we can built a knowledgeable community. :)

Hi thanks to share the information Raj. I like you moto. "Do something to community without hoping any credit"
All should apply this in their daily routine of life. It's for our community what. If not us then who will do?

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 Re: History of Vaikasi Visakam Festival
Hello Raj,

I would be happy and proud of if you have posted a snippet of the article and credited the original source (that's my site). But what you did is just copy pasted the article only with out credited the original author.

Quoting your word belows

"Then i believe you do not actually want your hard work to be exposed by others. All what you want is, all come to you (here its meaning go to your website) and learn from there."


Of course this is what I want...all the articles posted there is my hard word. You just copied and pasted the content here because your intention is also the same to promote the site (If whould have thought it the other way if you have credited the original author).

If your original intention was knowledge sharing - then you might have started a thread and let others know there is a Hindu website where you can get details of Hindu festivals and temples!

Also I dont think you are doing something to the community without hoping any credit - because everyone can simply copy paste someone else hard work. If you really want to do something to the community spend time in writing articles yourself. Even if you copied from other sites I'll tell the same only, because I know how difficult it is to search for exact information and create UNIQUE articles

And I'm not sure whether Admin will help me in this case, as I just noticed you the MODERATOR of this board, so he might not help me out. But I hope for JUSTICE here!

PS: I too don't want you to feel bad, but I'm too sad when you did so


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 Re: History of Vaikasi Visakam Festival
I do not have anything to comment... i appreciate your feedback.

"If you really want to do something to the community spend time in writing articles yourself."
Hmm, if this is the case, what you trying to say is, if i read / get to know a good information from Net / Book / etc, i should not tell that to others (in term of share to community) as the source of information is not belongs / written by me. If someone give me money (for any reason), again i should not share / donate to others as i did not gain that money from my own hard work? Is this what you trying to say?

"I know how difficult it is to search for exact information and create UNIQUE articles"
Then, for sure you also read a lot of books / articles and get info from others which end up with your own article (kinda summary). Isn't it you should credit to those sources?

PS: I too don't want you to feel bad, but I'm too sad when you did so
Im more sad from you... Dont know why you looking for the credit on your hard work... Some more its related to devotional... But remember, God will credit to your hard work... you should not expect anything from human...

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05 Jun 2009 12:42
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Of course, I'm not expecting anything from you, because what you are trying is to STEAL others work and make money from it.

And I know God will be with me.

You said you posted your forums url in my site to let me know that you are copying. But your intention was to get a backlink from my site to your forum. Also you HAVEN'T FORGOT to post your another comment in my site to promote your second site "raj2u.net" so what you want is promote your site and make money, right?

What you forget ONLY is to post my site link in your forum or give the credit to the original site from which you copied it....huhhhhhh disgraceful...shame on you Mr Raj!

And Raj, if you intention was only knowledge sharing why dont you join some other popular forums in net and share thing there. Why started a Forum of your own and visiting other sites and copying things from here and there????

Anyway, never mind, I'm not wasting time talking with you as I understood the moderator here and the Admin here are the same - RAJ! :(

So not wasting my time as I've several things to do....

PS: Also keep in mind there are several other ways to remove the copied content from here by contacting Google and claiming a copyright complaint. But I'm not going to do such things as of now, as I left everything on God and He will decide about your sites future! God is with people who work hard and not with someone trying to make easy money from others work!

Good BYEEEEEEEEEE


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"STEAL others work and make money from it."
I make money?????? If your mind set is like that... i have no comment.

"promote your second site "raj2u.net""
Then, you should remove the option of "Name/URL" from the list and filter the post content for web address.

And Raj, if you intention was only knowledge sharing why dont you join some other popular forums in net and share thing there. Why started a Forum of your own and visiting other sites and copying things from here and there????
Which website? I do active in few forums... and most of the Tamil forums are based on entertainment - download movie/song. Also, i do not own this website.

Ok, but why you did not answer my earlier question???

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 Re: History of Vaikasi Visakam Festival
Dear Abhiabhi,
Why so much of conflict? We've agreed what it was our mistake. What do you really expect? Do you want us to send personal messages to all members says that this article was copied from your side? Are you really intended to spread the knowledge? If so why expecting credit?

Steal?
Where you get the informations before come up with your own article? Your good self referring to other articles/books right? Do you agree if we said you steal? No right? Same goes to others. You see we never argue that it was our article. We just fail to indicate the original source. However we already explained you see. Since this is the public forum I'm expecting you to use kind words.

Making money?
Can you prove? I want to know. Hopefully you'll give me the good answer. Is the any charges applied upon the registration? Or any hidden charges while you're browsing our forum? No right? Sign up is absolutely free for all the good members including you and no additional charges applied in any mean. So before blame others make sure your statement is true. I strongly disagree with this! We are here to learn! Not to blame!

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To Arutkumar / Raj / Other Members,

I thought not to visit the forum again, but logged in again to make you all know what happened.

First of all I need to let you know I’m not here to fight or blame the forum. I visited the forum seeing a comment from Raj in my blog that he is posting the article in the forum. So I visited here and see he copied the article from my blog and not credit the original author (that’s me). So I posted saying the things above.

Regarding Copyright / Crediting Others articles

Usually the articles found in a website are not free to be copied or posted in other sites without consent from the author / admin of the website. I’m not sure whether Raj or Arut knows this.

Wikipedia is free, that doesn’t mean we can start a new website / forum and simply go and copy the articles from other sites and post it in our site. Of course, they allow to copy the text with some rights or GNU Licence. That is to credit the original source also not to be used for monetary benefits.

Other general websites you see online are not like that, the content is copyrighted to the specific author / website owner. So before you copy you have to ask the author of the site whether they can copy contents and post it in another site with a backlink to the site leaving credit.

For more details you visit the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) http://www.google.com/dmca.html . We have earlier had some similar problems of people copying and using the content in their sites and we mailed Google with the details to remove the copyright contents.

It is not only just a rule but also a moral ethic to credit the original author by stating that.

Hope the copyright details are clear now.

In this case both was not done, so I posted the details here…and it went to a conflict which was not really needed as well.

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@ Arutkumar

You need not have to send messages to all members saying this.

Dear Arun, there is all information available on the internet and books, but what I said is we should not copy only, but you can read, learn and then write it in your own words. So all the right on the article written by you will be credit to your site.

Else, what do you think, we can start a website, and go to other top websites and copy and paste contents to our site? Is that good? If so we can start a news website and copy things found in top news websites and post in our site as well?

Regarding Making Money – By making money I mean, the Google Ads in the site. I didn’t mean you charge something for registration or any hidden fees.

I personally own such a forum and it is also for discussion & learning only.

But I always insist the members not to COPY – PASTE articles from other sites.

There are also several things as well like Page Rankings, Unique content etc. Everything will be affected for duplicate content (that is same content in different sites).

Hope everything is clear and there is no problem now. Any more question or information you need on these things ask me.


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